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The Deity Of Jesus Christ

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The Deity of Christ

For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully. For I consider myself not in the least inferior to the most eminent apostles.2 Corinthians 11:4,5

Although this blog is being written for Watchtower investigated, I hope this can be of benefit of anyone who is reaching out to anyone who believes in a different Jesus of that of the one of the bible. It may come as a surprise to some people but actually there are a lot of different Jesus’s. For example :-

Muslims – Jesus was a prophet, but nothing more.

Mormons – He is A god.

Christadelphians – Jesus was more than a man, but less than God, and could sin.

Atheists – He was just a man (if he did even exist).

Jehovahs Witnesses – he was the arch Angel Michael, also a lesser god.

Orthodox Christian – He is fully God and fully Man. He is Deity.

This blog post is not on the Trinity but rather what the bible teaches regarding who Jesus is.

There are some important questions to answer when working out this issue of Jesus’s deity.

Are there any references to Jesus creating the world?

Did people worship Jesus?

What does firstborn mean?

Are there any references to Jesus being God?

Is it impossible for God to be fully God and fully Man?

Who do we go to for salvation?

To find out all the answers we have to solely look at the scriptures.

Are there any references to Jesus creating the world?

Genesis 1:1 – In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth.

If you are a Jehovahs Witness you will no doubt say that this “God” is Jehovah, as an Orthodox Christian – we would agree, but this is because we believe Jehovah and Jesus are the same, were are as Jehovahs Witnesses believe they are different.

We therefore need to look at some other scriptures in order to work out who created the world.

Colossians 1:15, 16 – The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities– all things have been created through Him and for Him.

So according this verse it was THE SON who created the heavens and the earth as well as everything in the heaven.

Sadly this is how the same verse reads in the Jehovahs Witness bible.

He is the image of the invisible God,+ the firstborn of all creation;+ 16  because by means of him all OTHER things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him.

The word “other” has been deliberately inserted in this verse, even though in the Greek it would not have this word – this is so this verse can fit closer to the Jehovahs Witness teaching.

However even in the Jehovah Witness bible you see that it was indeed Jesus that created the heaven and the earth, now go back to Genesis 1:1.

“In the beginning God created heaven and the earth”

So even the Jehovahs Witness bible shows that Jesus created the heavens and the earth (Colossians 1:15,16) and indeed so did God! (Genesis 1:1). So right from Genesis 1:1 we see Jesus’s deity.

Did people worship Jesus?

Jehovahs Witnesses certainly do not think so “true Christians do well to direct their worship only to Jehovah God, the Almighty” – Awake 8th April, 2000

The fact is though we see right from the birth of Jesus people worshipped as their “God with us (Matt 1:23).

Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.” Matthew 2:1-2

So in Matthew 1, we have the baby being called Emmanuel, the God with us and in Matthew 2, we have people worshipping him. How can Jesus be anything other than the God we hear about in the old testament?

Throughout Jesus’s life we see people worshipping him…

Matthew 28:17 “they saw him, they worshipped him.

John 9:38 “Lord. I believe, and he worshipped him.”

Matthew 8:2,3And behold, a leper came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.” And Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, “I will; be clean.” And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.

Hebrews 1:6Angels are instructed by God to worship Jesus.

Matthew 14:33After Jesus had calmed the storm, the disciples worshipped Him saying He was the Son of God.

Luke 24:52Even after He had ascended back to heaven, they worshipped Him.

Would it have been proper to worship Jesus if he was not God?

Acts 10:25,26Cornelius fell down to worship Peter. Peter forbade it saying that he himself was just a man. God deserves worship, but men do not. 

Revelation 22:8,9; 19:10John sought to worship the angel, but the angel forbade it because he was a “fellow servant.” “Worship God.”

Notice that no where in accounts of people worshipping Jesus does it say that Jesus rebuked them for doing so and yet even Jesus himself said :-

Luke 4:8And Jesus answered him, “It is written, “’You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.’then that the bible commands only that God should be worshipped, and we see that lots of people worship Jesus.

We see then that the bible commands only that God should be worshipped, and we see that lots of people worship Jesus.

Although a Jehovahs Witness will say “well you obey Jesus, you don’t worship him”…the reality of it is that when Jesus was on the earth people where worshipping Jesus. We can clearly see then the true deity of Christ by the fact that people did worship him.

What does firstborn mean?

One of the errors Jehovahs Witnesses fall into is that because Jesus was called first-born that meant he was the first created. The fact is though the term “first-born” had a different meaning in the bible as to someone literally being the first to be born.

We see 2 other examples of this in the old testament:-

Psalm 89:20, 27 says, “I have found David My servant; with My holy oil I have anointed him . . . I also shall make him My first-born.

However David was actually the youngest in the family! This (First-born) is a title of pre-eminence.

Jer. 31:9, ” . . . for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is My firstborn.”

Yet according to Gen. 41:51-52 Ephraim is actually born second!

Although a Jehovahs Witnesses will use John 3:16 as a proof text to show that Jesus is God’s literal son, the fact is that the bible shows something different.

Are there any references to Jesus being God?

For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. – Isaiah 9:6

All Jehovahs Witnesses at this point are going….”ah well you see it says MIGHTY God not ALL mighty God” so actually this verse does not call Jesus God at all”

Well as an orthodox Christian I only believe in ONE God, also what do you with Jesus being called Everlasting Father? Also does this mean that the Arch Angel Michael is also a Mighty God?

Thomas calls Jesus God in John 20:28“My Lord, and My God”

Matt 1:23The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”)

So we see that Jesus is called God and not only that we see that by his actions.

Is it impossible for God to be fully God and fully Man?

I have heard it be said that it is impossible for God to be fully God and fully man.

Luke 1:37  For with God nothing will be impossible.

I do not pretend to understand exactly how it works, but how is anybody this side of eternity supposed to understand exactly how God works?

All we can do is follow what his text says.

Who do we go to for salvation?

All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. Matthew 11:28,29.

Jehovahs Witnesses, Jesus declares that salvation does not belong in a religion, in a church, or a kingdom hall – it exists only in him.

As a Jehovahs Witness I can assure I always felt burdened “Am I doing enough hours? Am I behaving in a way that I should to make sure I don’t get zapped at Armageddon? Am I good enough for God?” When I read that without the my Watchtower specs on, I knew that Jesus had actually already paid for my sin, and all I need to do was repent to be forgiving.

I do not set aside God’s grace, because if righteousness could come through the law, then Christ died for nothing – Galatians 2:21

No matter how good you THINK you are, you are sinner and no matter how good you try to be, salvation will only exist if you put your faith in Jesus. You may think you have already done this, but ask yourself – have you ever prayed to Jesus? If you haven’t then how could he have given you? How can someone forgive you who you have never spoken to?

Also, just think about what Jesus had done…he died take away the sin of all the believers, can someone who is “an angel” really do this?

As a Jehovahs Witness I always believed that I had THE TRUTH and so need to stay in for my salvation, however I then read the words of Jesus himself :-

John 14:26Jesus said “ I am the WAY, and THE TRUTH, and the Life no one comes to the Father but through me”.

Jesus therefore we see from scripture is fully man and fully God, and it is him we go for salvation.

Shalom

Jason Thickpenny

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7 Responses »

  1. this is a great article to use thank you Margaret

  2. Hi, so you are justify that JW is wrong because they believe he is son of God, which it is mighty God. But you believe he is God, therefore he accepts us automatically because he just died for us that is all. Just come and die, it is that simple?? We don’t have to do anything, right? Because you mention JW are worrying, if I am doing good or not, that mean they are following rules or action that is like a rule to follow. That what you are saying, don’t follow any rule, just know the Jesus died for us and we are saved?? Jesus came and die, that is all. We know Jesus as that he died for us and know that we are saved. Or if we don’t know Jesus, we are saved right. It is either know or not know that mean we are saved because Jesus die for us.

    You mention the scriptures that ‘I do not set aside God’s grace, because if righteousness could come through the law, then Christ died for nothing’.

    (Notes: – mean both are connect)

    That mean we don’t have to follow law? What that mean I do not set aside God’s grace?-That do mean we follow the law?

    The question is why did Jesus die for us??

    So, you assume that Salvation is different between JW and you? You assume that JW’s salvation is in what?? Your salvation as you say that it is in Jesus. That what JW believe as you do. But you are saying that JW misunderstood ‘Salvation in Jesus’ or lying that salvation is in Jesus?

    I don’t know if that is your experience or you saw/heard that JW is burden, which mean feeling pressure, but don’t want to do it. So, it is negative pressure, not positive pressure (as want to do it). – ‘As a Jehovah’s Witness I can assure I always felt burdened “Am I doing enough hours? Am I behaving in a way that I should to make sure I don’t get zapped at Armageddon? Am I good enough for God?” When I read that without the my Watchtower specs on, I knew that Jesus had actually already paid for my sin, and all I need to do was repent to be forgiving’ That whole thing is a burden?

    What you provide is not a burden, which is no worry if they are save or not. I am not saying they are burdened because they are preaching, or anything, more like if they are doing enough for God, but can’t be sure. That is the burden, you are saying?

    So, you now are saying we don’t need to feel burden because we don’t have to do anything, (Not do anything, which imply we are not worry that we are doing enough) except either know Jesus died for us or not know that Jesus died for us, but either way we are saved?

    Just do what you want to do and you will be saved, that is your message, right? For the whole thing, the whole point of true religious: Salvation.

    JW: Saved by work

    You: Saved by grace (no work). No work can be any work, that you can think of.

    • A true JW comment to a fine document. No, Mellow03, you have to study Jason letter once more. It is true, we are saved by grace and not by our own actions or work. We would not be able to do anything to be saved but say yes to Jesus.

      JW are mistaken by not understanding the deity of Jesus and that is the whole wrong about JW faith.

      So, I do not have to tell more, but encourage you to read and study Jason letter once more. This is the truth.

      I will give you this prayer:

  3. “For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace”. – Isaiah 9:6

    All Jehovahs Witnesses at this point are going….”ah well you see it says MIGHTY God not ALL mighty God” so actually this verse does not call Jesus God at all”

    In Isaiah 10:21 Jehovah is referred to as “the Mighty God” in the NWT!!!.

  4. Another great article Jason . It’s truly heart breaking to see sincere people like Jw’s being so misled into believing in a counterfeit Jesus ( 2Cor 11:4 ) . I’ve had the following poem (by L. MacGregor) for many years , and it speaks about this topic .

    The Watchtower archangel Michael
    Shows an alarming trend to recycle
    In the heavens ” a god ”
    Then Jesus the man ,
    Dissolved , recreated as Michael

    J.w.’s tell you today
    that they are the truth and the way ,
    But their Christ is an angel ,
    Their dates are a tangle ,
    They are TOLD what to do and to say !

    My Jesus , no angel is He !
    Shed His blood on Calvary for me
    He is God , he is man ‘
    I with Him take my stand ,
    No need to recycle Michael !

  5. All this contempt between Christian Sects confuse me. I see no reason to argue semantics of confusion in understanding of Bible verse. I think Jesus warned us of these problems in Matt 5: 22-24. “But I say to you that everyone who continues to be angry with his brother… shall be liable to punishment… and whoever speaks contemptuously and insultingly to his brother shall be liable to and unable to escape punishment imposed by the Sanhedrin, …. So if you are offering your gift at the altar and you remember that your brother has any grievance against you. Leave your gift at the altar. First make peace with your brother and then come back and present your gift.

    • Wayne , you apparently do not understand what’s going on . First of all , I for one , do not have any contempt for members of the Watchtower organization . None .
      Secondly, I’m glad you quoted the scriptures ( Matt 5:22-24 ) . Might you also consider looking at Matt 7:15 . Jesus warned us all to be alert for false prophets because those type of religious leaders can spiritually and emotionally damage sincere people . Watchtower leaders claim to be the only true prophet of God today , and their followers are not allowed to disagree with what they teach , to do so offends God , and as a result many have suffered needlessly . At one time some years ago W.t. leaders caused their followers to fear taking organ transplants because God would not like that etc . Before that it was once taught that vaccinations were against ” God’s law ” .

      This ministry merely seeks to help Christians minister to members of the Watchtower organization so that they can be free from their leaders dictates . While there be some persons from time to time on this public blog who may have contempt for Jw’s , those that run this ministry do not .This ministry also provides help directly to those ex members who have been damaged spiritually and emotionally by their leaders doctrines / policies .

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